Terry was listening to Terry Gross interview Donna Summer, and I have Dave Thompson book about I feel love Donna Summer, Giorgio Moroder, and how they reinvented music.
I noticed reference to “i’ll be holding on” by Big Al Downing — but my brain is hearing  Mick Hocknull, or somethings “holding back the tears”. Simply Red.
Al Downing was 5’11 175.

I think of him as a dodger, not a Yankee .

some people think of them as grooving the ball to Hank Aaron. 715.
This is beginning to sound like a Dan Bern song.