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I have to admit that sometimes I confuse al young and Ernest Gaines. I guess if I had met either Mann or saw him read or see him read that will illuminate the problem they’re both among the top riders to ever come through this part  I guess if I had met either man or saw him read or see him read that will illuminate the problem they’re both among the top riders to ever come through this part. Gaines was born in Louisiana but raised in Vallejo went to San Francisco State and Stanford.